Since we toke the effort to learn about GVG and PVP which is held in high regard, I'd like to promote the idea of writing down what you have learned from this day in PvP & GvG that you didn't know prior. If you want to have a accurate view on what you actually learn, documentation is the way. So go ahead and Self-reflect. Here follows my reflection: Confirmed that a witch should never walk alone That I should ignore any commands regarding "spreading out". Witches & wizards have serious mobility & escape issues. Witches & wizards can do little to retaliate once they are heavily focused on, since most skills require cast time (you'd be dead before you finish your spells). If witches don't have the AP to burst an enemy, they are dead / useless in pvp. Witches/Wizards were meant for large scale sieges, not for 1v1 pvp. Rangers are the bane of my existance defensively wise. I can never catch up to a fleeing warrior or sorceress. (Things I mostly already knew actually) Things I have to change: Get better gear, since it's impossible to measure skill progression, if you do 0 dmg on the enemy in both situations. For a certain period, just keep grinding for lvls, skillpoints & blackstones & nothing else. Don't participate in pvp on my witch, unless i'm able to group with someone that can keep enemies off me. Advice for others: Focus on getting geared before attempting PVP. Be specific if you encounter an enemy. Screaming "HERE HERE" doesn't show us anything. Don't disregard arguments based on personal opinion & don't force your opinion upon others.